Today on Phil’s Rants…
“Democratic Rights of Humans Aged 16-18.”
Now I’m not sure how popular this one will be, but here we go.
This topic has arisen again recently and there’s a lot of anger on both sides, which seems to be the case with just about every political topic at the moment. Let’s just take it all down a couple of notches and look at it logically, shall we?
I’ve been doing some demographic research (by which I mean I’ve argued with people on Twitter and in Facebook threads) and I’m going to take you through some of the opinions I’ve come across. Using a magical recipe with left-leaning politics at its core and some tasty common sense, reasonable thinking and a little dusting of contempt for general idiocy thrown in, I will critically assess each of these opinions in a sensible manner for your amusement as my adoring public. Because I love ya’s.
1.The voting age should be lowered to 16:
Yeah. Why not? (I'm going to answer that question later) People don’t give 16 and 17 year-olds enough credit for their political awareness, particularly in this day and age. There are plenty of things the government deems them able to do; get married, have sex, ride a moped, leave home, apply for a provisional driving licence, leave school, work full-time, pay tax and national insurance (more on that later), join a trade union, independently apply for a passport, join the forces (with parental consent), register as a blood donor, give blood (at 17), change their name by deed poll, pilot a glider, buy premium bonds and consent to medical treatment as well as paying for prescriptions.
I was politically aware enough to vote at 16 and so were a lot of my peers.
2. 16-18 year olds are indoctrinated by education.
Yes, they are. And so are you. And so is everyone regardless of age.
3. 16 year-olds aren’t emotionally mature or politically aware enough to vote.
Not true. I’ve met a lot of people that age who are emotionally mature and politically aware enough to vote. I’ve met a lot of people over 40 who aren’t.
4. People with dementia shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Actually, as much as I believe in democratic freedom, I’m weird about this one. It’s one thing to not understand current affairs… it’s another altogether to not know what decade it is. Not much point letting people vote in 2019 if they go to the ballot boxes and tick Conservative because they think they’re voting in a third term for Winston Churchill.
5. Then why not lower it to nursery age... why not have a second, third. Fourth. Fifth. Sixth referendum. WHY, because 18 HAS been decided.
(Direct quote)
The childish hyperbole has completely ruined your point. Your very existence is living proof that our education system is a fucking joke.
6. Give the vote to 16 year-olds. It’s their future.
Yep. Can’t argue with that. As long as they’re caught up on what’s happening and they understand it, they deserve to say their bit.
7. They should up the age to 21.
This one has sub-points. Bear with me.
7.i. 18 year olds are too young to understand politics.
Bollocks. They’re old enough to do just about everything else restricted by age in this country except adopt a child, supervise a learner driver and fly a passenger plane.
7.ii. They’ll just vote for whatever their liberal professors vote for.
They don’t give a shit about their professors’ political affiliations. People have made their minds up about it on their own by then.
8. But…but.... I don't want to apply for a visa, my fine arts degree means I am one of the intelligentsia and you are RUINING my life…
(Another direct quote. Sarcasm, in case you missed it)
There are no words to express how much I hope you get trampled by a herd of stampeding badgers on your way home from your job at the mustard gas factory tonight you ignorant, obnoxious waste of DNA.
9. Let kids be kids!
Whilst I agree up to a point, it’s too late for that. They know that they live on a doomed planet with old bigoted white men deciding their future on their behalf and they’re VERY pissed off. That ship has sailed I’m afraid.
10. 16 year olds aren’t capable of making those decisions.
Shamima Begum was though, right…
11. They should up the voting age to 25.
No. That’s ridiculous.
12. They should up the voting age to 30.
No. That’s moronic. I’m 28, I’m very politically aware and I, for one, will NOT have my democratic right to vote in this country infringed just because you don’t like the idea of giving the vote to a generation you don’t understand.
13. They should up the voting age to 35.
It’s been a long time since you’ve met someone under 35 hasn’t it.
14. They should up the voting age to 40.
(Seriously. Direct quote.)
Die. Die horribly.
And the bonus ball, number 15.
"If they’re old enough to pay taxes, they’re old enough to vote."
Yep! Spot on! Nobody should be expected to contribute their hard-earned money to a government they aren’t allowed to vote for. Talk about betraying democracy!
Just give them the vote. Like all democratic rights arguments of history, now the cat is out of the bag, voting 'no' on it isn't enough. If the 16-18s want it bad enough, they'll fight tooth and nail until they get it. Parliament may as well save themselves the trouble.
“Democratic Rights of Humans Aged 16-18.”
Now I’m not sure how popular this one will be, but here we go.
This topic has arisen again recently and there’s a lot of anger on both sides, which seems to be the case with just about every political topic at the moment. Let’s just take it all down a couple of notches and look at it logically, shall we?
I’ve been doing some demographic research (by which I mean I’ve argued with people on Twitter and in Facebook threads) and I’m going to take you through some of the opinions I’ve come across. Using a magical recipe with left-leaning politics at its core and some tasty common sense, reasonable thinking and a little dusting of contempt for general idiocy thrown in, I will critically assess each of these opinions in a sensible manner for your amusement as my adoring public. Because I love ya’s.
1.The voting age should be lowered to 16:
Yeah. Why not? (I'm going to answer that question later) People don’t give 16 and 17 year-olds enough credit for their political awareness, particularly in this day and age. There are plenty of things the government deems them able to do; get married, have sex, ride a moped, leave home, apply for a provisional driving licence, leave school, work full-time, pay tax and national insurance (more on that later), join a trade union, independently apply for a passport, join the forces (with parental consent), register as a blood donor, give blood (at 17), change their name by deed poll, pilot a glider, buy premium bonds and consent to medical treatment as well as paying for prescriptions.
I was politically aware enough to vote at 16 and so were a lot of my peers.
2. 16-18 year olds are indoctrinated by education.
Yes, they are. And so are you. And so is everyone regardless of age.
3. 16 year-olds aren’t emotionally mature or politically aware enough to vote.
Not true. I’ve met a lot of people that age who are emotionally mature and politically aware enough to vote. I’ve met a lot of people over 40 who aren’t.
4. People with dementia shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Actually, as much as I believe in democratic freedom, I’m weird about this one. It’s one thing to not understand current affairs… it’s another altogether to not know what decade it is. Not much point letting people vote in 2019 if they go to the ballot boxes and tick Conservative because they think they’re voting in a third term for Winston Churchill.
5. Then why not lower it to nursery age... why not have a second, third. Fourth. Fifth. Sixth referendum. WHY, because 18 HAS been decided.
(Direct quote)
The childish hyperbole has completely ruined your point. Your very existence is living proof that our education system is a fucking joke.
6. Give the vote to 16 year-olds. It’s their future.
Yep. Can’t argue with that. As long as they’re caught up on what’s happening and they understand it, they deserve to say their bit.
7. They should up the age to 21.
This one has sub-points. Bear with me.
7.i. 18 year olds are too young to understand politics.
Bollocks. They’re old enough to do just about everything else restricted by age in this country except adopt a child, supervise a learner driver and fly a passenger plane.
7.ii. They’ll just vote for whatever their liberal professors vote for.
They don’t give a shit about their professors’ political affiliations. People have made their minds up about it on their own by then.
8. But…but.... I don't want to apply for a visa, my fine arts degree means I am one of the intelligentsia and you are RUINING my life…
(Another direct quote. Sarcasm, in case you missed it)
There are no words to express how much I hope you get trampled by a herd of stampeding badgers on your way home from your job at the mustard gas factory tonight you ignorant, obnoxious waste of DNA.
9. Let kids be kids!
Whilst I agree up to a point, it’s too late for that. They know that they live on a doomed planet with old bigoted white men deciding their future on their behalf and they’re VERY pissed off. That ship has sailed I’m afraid.
10. 16 year olds aren’t capable of making those decisions.
Shamima Begum was though, right…
11. They should up the voting age to 25.
No. That’s ridiculous.
12. They should up the voting age to 30.
No. That’s moronic. I’m 28, I’m very politically aware and I, for one, will NOT have my democratic right to vote in this country infringed just because you don’t like the idea of giving the vote to a generation you don’t understand.
13. They should up the voting age to 35.
It’s been a long time since you’ve met someone under 35 hasn’t it.
14. They should up the voting age to 40.
(Seriously. Direct quote.)
Die. Die horribly.
And the bonus ball, number 15.
"If they’re old enough to pay taxes, they’re old enough to vote."
Yep! Spot on! Nobody should be expected to contribute their hard-earned money to a government they aren’t allowed to vote for. Talk about betraying democracy!
Just give them the vote. Like all democratic rights arguments of history, now the cat is out of the bag, voting 'no' on it isn't enough. If the 16-18s want it bad enough, they'll fight tooth and nail until they get it. Parliament may as well save themselves the trouble.


